Between Data and Risk is for founders who are actually building something. After nearly 50 episodes on data, risk, and business ops with corporate leaders, we shifted focus—because the stories that stuck weren’t about scale. They were about the early days, when everything’s uncertain and nothing works yet.

Now we talk to founders making real decisions with limited info, tight time, and no safety net. The problems vary, but the terrain is shared: shipping too early, hiring too safe, trusting your gut and hoping you’re right.

Your hosts: Artur Guja, ex-CRO and ex-trader who navigated 2008 with gains. Dr. Marian Siwiak, scientist, data whisperer, author of Data Mesh in Action, and creator of artificial sentience.
Together, they wrote Starting Data Analytics with ChatGPT. And they still enjoy what matters most: talking to founders figuring it out as they go.

Subscribe if you want to learn what works (and what doesn’t) from people who’ve lived it.